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	<title>Comments on: Messaging &amp; Positioning: Learn from the Pros</title>
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	<description>Go-Beyond Branding</description>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://mgmtnow.com/messaging-positioning-learn-from-the-pros/comment-page-1/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me clarify:

&quot;Does the messaging (promise) match the product? Do the pillars support the promise? Do the proof points provide solid support to the pillar&quot;

That sounds like sarcasm.  The information provided does not link the specific points of their product pitch to sales figures.  You simply provide some product information, and then ask these questions.  Can you see how it could be interpreted as sarcasm.

If you want to show brand success, give us some quantifiable data.  Show us the number of times and ways this product was exposed to the public compared to the number of units that were sold.  How many were returned because of defective batteries?  What percentage of the market share do they have now, compared to years previous and how does the introduction of new products (such as Zune) affect that market?

We have anecdotal evidence that the iPod is a branding success; however, I&#039;ve never really found data to support that &quot;feeling&quot;.  As the post stands now, Apple&#039;s position is not clear, and we cannot see how these elements interact with each other.  I could simply counter that Zune is a more successful brand because I like it (and my opinion is more important then everyone else).

Make the case for solid branding if that is what you feel.

Please and thank you - Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me clarify:</p>
<p>&#8220;Does the messaging (promise) match the product? Do the pillars support the promise? Do the proof points provide solid support to the pillar&#8221;</p>
<p>That sounds like sarcasm.  The information provided does not link the specific points of their product pitch to sales figures.  You simply provide some product information, and then ask these questions.  Can you see how it could be interpreted as sarcasm.</p>
<p>If you want to show brand success, give us some quantifiable data.  Show us the number of times and ways this product was exposed to the public compared to the number of units that were sold.  How many were returned because of defective batteries?  What percentage of the market share do they have now, compared to years previous and how does the introduction of new products (such as Zune) affect that market?</p>
<p>We have anecdotal evidence that the iPod is a branding success; however, I&#8217;ve never really found data to support that &#8220;feeling&#8221;.  As the post stands now, Apple&#8217;s position is not clear, and we cannot see how these elements interact with each other.  I could simply counter that Zune is a more successful brand because I like it (and my opinion is more important then everyone else).</p>
<p>Make the case for solid branding if that is what you feel.</p>
<p>Please and thank you &#8211; Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you kidding this is probably the most successful brand identity excercise I&#039;ve seen.

They were selling this product for 5 years with the same messaging the whole time.

This is not sarcasm. Its solid branding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you kidding this is probably the most successful brand identity excercise I&#8217;ve seen.</p>
<p>They were selling this product for 5 years with the same messaging the whole time.</p>
<p>This is not sarcasm. Its solid branding.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://mgmtnow.com/messaging-positioning-learn-from-the-pros/comment-page-1/#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You call this &quot;appreciation&quot;?  Your sarcasm is only thinly veiled guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You call this &#8220;appreciation&#8221;?  Your sarcasm is only thinly veiled guy.</p>
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