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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now after which I will stumble across a post like this and I&#039;ll recall that there really are even now fascinating pages on the web. ^_^. Thanks.</description>
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		<title>By: LenovoMike</title>
		<link>http://mgmtnow.com/blue-ocean-strategies/comment-page-1/#comment-126</link>
		<dc:creator>LenovoMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting dialog.  Let me posit that Wal-Mart does have differentiation.  Other stores will try to specialize in fewer products that have a higher degree of quality.  Wal-Mart simply throws a ton of stuff at the consumer in the hopes that they will buy something in the store.  That is especially true here in the midwest where they are part supermarket, part retail store, part automotive, etc.  Then they put the thing next to a Sams club that offers the same stuff, but in bulk.  It is kind of like putting up flak and flying a bomber through it.  Eventually you are going to get hit.

One could argue that Microsoft uses a similar strategy.  They try to get into everything in the hopes of making something stick.  Let me give you a recent example.  They make a great mid-tier database product (SQL Server) and they own the desktop office marketplace (MS Access).  Well they want to compete with Oracle, and have take some steps in SQL Server to do that (partitioning for example) but they lack a good Business Intelligence product.  Their answer was this garbage called SQL Server Reporting Services.  It is not bad for small little reporting systems, but if you try to tie it into a data warehouse it completely chokes.  They were trying to compete with the likes of Business Objects, Cognos and SAS but really failed on execution.  That whole industry is pretty cut throat, and with IBM buying Cognos and BO buying Crystal, you see a trend of consolidation.  In short, they tried to dive into the Red Ocean and were eaten by the sharks.

I will go back to my original observations.  They do Office really well.  If they want to differentiate themselves, then produce enhancements to that product line.  

Apple has it&#039;s own problems with this type of strategy.   Yes they have done very well, and they continue to see market share and stock price increases, but how much of this company is tied to Jobs?  When he is unable to continue to move it forward, they do not have the energetic leader to step into those shoes.  Microsoft has that whack-job Balmer, and under him there are a number of competent leaders.  Microsoft is also not as closely tied with Gates that his departure would result in a significant loss for the company.  They continue to have the high prices, people are losing their jobs at a record pace, and nobody will have the money to buy the product.  This is why the cheaper netbook options are very popular.  When you only need to update Facebook and post to Nick&#039;s blog, the netbook seems like an extremely tempting proposition.

One final parting shot.  I can argue that Lenovo strikes the balance between these two strategies.  They focus on a core set of products, and make them technically solid.  Instead of trying to be a Wal-Mart, they try to sell a few really good models.  Their prices are slightly more then the netbooks, but they are not as high as Apple.  As a result, they are striking a good balance between price and functionality.  They are also not tied to an individual leader, as some of these other organizations are.  Perhaps they are better suited for the long-term?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting dialog.  Let me posit that Wal-Mart does have differentiation.  Other stores will try to specialize in fewer products that have a higher degree of quality.  Wal-Mart simply throws a ton of stuff at the consumer in the hopes that they will buy something in the store.  That is especially true here in the midwest where they are part supermarket, part retail store, part automotive, etc.  Then they put the thing next to a Sams club that offers the same stuff, but in bulk.  It is kind of like putting up flak and flying a bomber through it.  Eventually you are going to get hit.</p>
<p>One could argue that Microsoft uses a similar strategy.  They try to get into everything in the hopes of making something stick.  Let me give you a recent example.  They make a great mid-tier database product (SQL Server) and they own the desktop office marketplace (MS Access).  Well they want to compete with Oracle, and have take some steps in SQL Server to do that (partitioning for example) but they lack a good Business Intelligence product.  Their answer was this garbage called SQL Server Reporting Services.  It is not bad for small little reporting systems, but if you try to tie it into a data warehouse it completely chokes.  They were trying to compete with the likes of Business Objects, Cognos and SAS but really failed on execution.  That whole industry is pretty cut throat, and with IBM buying Cognos and BO buying Crystal, you see a trend of consolidation.  In short, they tried to dive into the Red Ocean and were eaten by the sharks.</p>
<p>I will go back to my original observations.  They do Office really well.  If they want to differentiate themselves, then produce enhancements to that product line.  </p>
<p>Apple has it&#8217;s own problems with this type of strategy.   Yes they have done very well, and they continue to see market share and stock price increases, but how much of this company is tied to Jobs?  When he is unable to continue to move it forward, they do not have the energetic leader to step into those shoes.  Microsoft has that whack-job Balmer, and under him there are a number of competent leaders.  Microsoft is also not as closely tied with Gates that his departure would result in a significant loss for the company.  They continue to have the high prices, people are losing their jobs at a record pace, and nobody will have the money to buy the product.  This is why the cheaper netbook options are very popular.  When you only need to update Facebook and post to Nick&#8217;s blog, the netbook seems like an extremely tempting proposition.</p>
<p>One final parting shot.  I can argue that Lenovo strikes the balance between these two strategies.  They focus on a core set of products, and make them technically solid.  Instead of trying to be a Wal-Mart, they try to sell a few really good models.  Their prices are slightly more then the netbooks, but they are not as high as Apple.  As a result, they are striking a good balance between price and functionality.  They are also not tied to an individual leader, as some of these other organizations are.  Perhaps they are better suited for the long-term?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://mgmtnow.com/blue-ocean-strategies/comment-page-1/#comment-125</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See that&#039;s just the problem I see a place like Wal-Mart and I see it as a lack of differentiation that forces them to compete on price. Could just be my bias though, but every time I&#039;ve ever gone into a Wal-Mart I&#039;ve had a terrible experience.

I&#039;d rather pay more for great service, but then again that just makes me service oriented which is outside the market niche they fill which is &quot;cost/value conscious&quot; customers.

If you&#039;ve looked at Apple&#039;s market cap I don&#039;t think there&#039;s a lot to argue with on the strategy of moving the masses to higher end products. In a time where the PC market is being consumed by netbooks Apple has managed to weather the price-conscious storm and has even been gaining market share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See that&#8217;s just the problem I see a place like Wal-Mart and I see it as a lack of differentiation that forces them to compete on price. Could just be my bias though, but every time I&#8217;ve ever gone into a Wal-Mart I&#8217;ve had a terrible experience.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather pay more for great service, but then again that just makes me service oriented which is outside the market niche they fill which is &#8220;cost/value conscious&#8221; customers.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve looked at Apple&#8217;s market cap I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s a lot to argue with on the strategy of moving the masses to higher end products. In a time where the PC market is being consumed by netbooks Apple has managed to weather the price-conscious storm and has even been gaining market share.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://mgmtnow.com/blue-ocean-strategies/comment-page-1/#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps you have been influenced by Microsoft and Apple too much?  Apple is the worst at this one.  They have (arguable) great products, and have been revolutionary in the field, but they will not come down on their price.  Just imagine if they started offering their low-end MacBooks at a competitive price to some of the low-end garbage Dell and HP puts out there.  They would absolutely crush that marketspace.

Price breaks are wonderful things to include in a value strategy.  Think of Wal-Mart.  They have made a very successful business model undercutting the competition.  PRICE is what makes them, because many would agree their products can be very low quality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you have been influenced by Microsoft and Apple too much?  Apple is the worst at this one.  They have (arguable) great products, and have been revolutionary in the field, but they will not come down on their price.  Just imagine if they started offering their low-end MacBooks at a competitive price to some of the low-end garbage Dell and HP puts out there.  They would absolutely crush that marketspace.</p>
<p>Price breaks are wonderful things to include in a value strategy.  Think of Wal-Mart.  They have made a very successful business model undercutting the competition.  PRICE is what makes them, because many would agree their products can be very low quality.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://mgmtnow.com/blue-ocean-strategies/comment-page-1/#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thing you referenced the Yellow Tail example as I&#039;m completely obsessed with that one hah. To be honest I cannot recall all the info as its been a good 2 years since I read it.

I agree we could conceivably consider the price cut as a blue ocean strategy but I&#039;ve always been loath to consider price cuts an effective value strategy (but thats more of a personal bias than anything else).

These could just be coincidences or us reading in this is true but that doesn&#039;t change the value of the example. If someone inadvertently finds a Blue Ocean space we should analyze that because even if it was just right place right time we can still learn from understanding how they deviated and the success it caused.


I&#039;ll fill you in sometime on my own wine blue ocean strategy which unfortunately I haven&#039;t had a chance to get off the ground yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thing you referenced the Yellow Tail example as I&#8217;m completely obsessed with that one hah. To be honest I cannot recall all the info as its been a good 2 years since I read it.</p>
<p>I agree we could conceivably consider the price cut as a blue ocean strategy but I&#8217;ve always been loath to consider price cuts an effective value strategy (but thats more of a personal bias than anything else).</p>
<p>These could just be coincidences or us reading in this is true but that doesn&#8217;t change the value of the example. If someone inadvertently finds a Blue Ocean space we should analyze that because even if it was just right place right time we can still learn from understanding how they deviated and the success it caused.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll fill you in sometime on my own wine blue ocean strategy which unfortunately I haven&#8217;t had a chance to get off the ground yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://mgmtnow.com/blue-ocean-strategies/comment-page-1/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They mention two specific tools for developing a blue ocean strategy.  First, the strategy canvas (pg 25) would identify the specific characteristics of the marketplace, and map out the opportunity.  If you see multiple items that are found only in your product, then it could be a good candidate.  Secondly, they mention the four actions framework (pg. 29).  These include reduce, create, eliminate and raise factors.  One clear example they gave was Yellow Tail wine (pg. 32).  Compared to the average premium wine and the average budget wine, Yellow Tail was the only one that offered easy drinking, ease of selection and fun and adventure (debatable of course).  

Using these toolkits, Subway is the only one offering the five dollar pricing and the healthy alternative.  Viewed as individual events, they would not be a strong case for blue ocean but viewed together as a much larger strategy, one could argue that they are.

Take another section of the book.  They discussed the six utility levers (pg 123) that are involved in the customer buying experience and the role of execution (pg. 174).  Without direct insight into the internal strategy sessions of Subway it is only speculation; however, it appears that they were intentional in these areas as well.  Timing the price cuts for a time when the recession was hitting people was excellent.  Also, it appears they have an intentional plan in place for the customer buying experience.  Again, well done!

The biggest criticism is that few companies have adopted this strategy formally.  We may be simply reading in this idea into a situation where it does not exist.  The fact that Subway made the rest of the market respond to these two items seems to lend credibility to the idea that it was blue ocean strategy.  Without the internal knowledge of operations at Subway, it would be impossible to confirm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They mention two specific tools for developing a blue ocean strategy.  First, the strategy canvas (pg 25) would identify the specific characteristics of the marketplace, and map out the opportunity.  If you see multiple items that are found only in your product, then it could be a good candidate.  Secondly, they mention the four actions framework (pg. 29).  These include reduce, create, eliminate and raise factors.  One clear example they gave was Yellow Tail wine (pg. 32).  Compared to the average premium wine and the average budget wine, Yellow Tail was the only one that offered easy drinking, ease of selection and fun and adventure (debatable of course).  </p>
<p>Using these toolkits, Subway is the only one offering the five dollar pricing and the healthy alternative.  Viewed as individual events, they would not be a strong case for blue ocean but viewed together as a much larger strategy, one could argue that they are.</p>
<p>Take another section of the book.  They discussed the six utility levers (pg 123) that are involved in the customer buying experience and the role of execution (pg. 174).  Without direct insight into the internal strategy sessions of Subway it is only speculation; however, it appears that they were intentional in these areas as well.  Timing the price cuts for a time when the recession was hitting people was excellent.  Also, it appears they have an intentional plan in place for the customer buying experience.  Again, well done!</p>
<p>The biggest criticism is that few companies have adopted this strategy formally.  We may be simply reading in this idea into a situation where it does not exist.  The fact that Subway made the rest of the market respond to these two items seems to lend credibility to the idea that it was blue ocean strategy.  Without the internal knowledge of operations at Subway, it would be impossible to confirm.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://mgmtnow.com/blue-ocean-strategies/comment-page-1/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually referenced Subway specifically because I felt their actions were a Blue Ocean strategy. At the same time their success really moved the entire market which created an opportunity for Burger King to focus on a group left behind by the exodus Subway caused.

Another interesting I don&#039;t really want to call it Blue Ocean but a strategy Subway pulled out that has again moved the entire market was the $5 footlong meal. 

This has caused a movement towards a $5 value menu across many competitors including Quiznos, KFC, and others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually referenced Subway specifically because I felt their actions were a Blue Ocean strategy. At the same time their success really moved the entire market which created an opportunity for Burger King to focus on a group left behind by the exodus Subway caused.</p>
<p>Another interesting I don&#8217;t really want to call it Blue Ocean but a strategy Subway pulled out that has again moved the entire market was the $5 footlong meal. </p>
<p>This has caused a movement towards a $5 value menu across many competitors including Quiznos, KFC, and others.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://mgmtnow.com/blue-ocean-strategies/comment-page-1/#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I didn&#039;t see the Apple write-up in CNN but I just found it.  Interesting that they are similar in several places, but again, I have some more criticisms of what they are doing.  I&#039;m afraid to share these with you because you will label me a &quot;hater&quot;.  It may demonstrate your inexperience in dealing with scholars who view everything with a critical eye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I didn&#8217;t see the Apple write-up in CNN but I just found it.  Interesting that they are similar in several places, but again, I have some more criticisms of what they are doing.  I&#8217;m afraid to share these with you because you will label me a &#8220;hater&#8221;.  It may demonstrate your inexperience in dealing with scholars who view everything with a critical eye.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://mgmtnow.com/blue-ocean-strategies/comment-page-1/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I spent time this weekend and finished the book.  As you get a bit deeper into it, they do describe it to include new markets for existing products.  Again, perhaps the medical software example is a bit better then the burger advertisement.  Your example of subway may be a better example as well.  It was around the time that they started promoting the health values of their products that New York adopted the transfat ban and McDonalds changed their fry oil (and lost any resemblance of taste to their fries).  While Jared may be a tool, that whole marketing line really was blue ocean.

More please on this topic....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I spent time this weekend and finished the book.  As you get a bit deeper into it, they do describe it to include new markets for existing products.  Again, perhaps the medical software example is a bit better then the burger advertisement.  Your example of subway may be a better example as well.  It was around the time that they started promoting the health values of their products that New York adopted the transfat ban and McDonalds changed their fry oil (and lost any resemblance of taste to their fries).  While Jared may be a tool, that whole marketing line really was blue ocean.</p>
<p>More please on this topic&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://mgmtnow.com/blue-ocean-strategies/comment-page-1/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with your assessment but as you&#039;ve stated before I&#039;m a &quot;marketing guy&quot;. My blog post for this morning was going to be about understanding what your product actually is (but that may get pushed back).

I firmly believe a blue ocean strategy isn&#039;t just building a new product its also in positioning a product to meet the needs of an ignored audience. When Subway started there was no such thing as &quot;health fastfood&quot; that then is a Blue Ocean Strategy.

Then when everyone was rushing to create a healthy food menu at their burger joint Burger King said screw it lets double down on unhealthy and target men. I would argue Burger King has done a wonderful job of distancing themselves and adding products that speak to men such as the Angry Burger.

Maybe we&#039;ll agree to disagree.

Ah you read the swan-song for Steve Jobs tablet piece on CNN? Was an interesting article sounds just like your comments.

As far as the big ass magic table &quot;Surface&quot; the problem is cost with that piece of hardware. Interestingly enough they were everywhere in the Vegas bars, but yeah interesting concept need to get the price down to a level where you could see it go mainstream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with your assessment but as you&#8217;ve stated before I&#8217;m a &#8220;marketing guy&#8221;. My blog post for this morning was going to be about understanding what your product actually is (but that may get pushed back).</p>
<p>I firmly believe a blue ocean strategy isn&#8217;t just building a new product its also in positioning a product to meet the needs of an ignored audience. When Subway started there was no such thing as &#8220;health fastfood&#8221; that then is a Blue Ocean Strategy.</p>
<p>Then when everyone was rushing to create a healthy food menu at their burger joint Burger King said screw it lets double down on unhealthy and target men. I would argue Burger King has done a wonderful job of distancing themselves and adding products that speak to men such as the Angry Burger.</p>
<p>Maybe we&#8217;ll agree to disagree.</p>
<p>Ah you read the swan-song for Steve Jobs tablet piece on CNN? Was an interesting article sounds just like your comments.</p>
<p>As far as the big ass magic table &#8220;Surface&#8221; the problem is cost with that piece of hardware. Interestingly enough they were everywhere in the Vegas bars, but yeah interesting concept need to get the price down to a level where you could see it go mainstream.</p>
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